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WOTLK Infos
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Gonna be interesting to see how they design encounters that are interesting for 25 as well as 10 people.
DK's sound alot more interesting already, that semi combat-res is
, still no clue how he's supposed to tank with a 2H, prolly one of those auras that turns a 2H sword into a shield wannabe <_<
DK's sound alot more interesting already, that semi combat-res is
, still no clue how he's supposed to tank with a 2H, prolly one of those auras that turns a 2H sword into a shield wannabe <_<The lack of attunements is a good thing now, but not sure about what is essentially heroic 10mans being the new 25 man content. Pushing enough players to do 25 man versions for what is essentially just loot upgrades is going to be hard.
They are gonna have to make atleast something unique in the 25man versions to make people want to do it.
The death knights do sound nice, and the comment about that being the ultimate magic dmg tanks is somewhat interesting. Will have to see how this affects current tanking classes based on their new talents.
They are gonna have to make atleast something unique in the 25man versions to make people want to do it.
The death knights do sound nice, and the comment about that being the ultimate magic dmg tanks is somewhat interesting. Will have to see how this affects current tanking classes based on their new talents.
"25-person raids will earn more, higher-level rewards, in what should be the equivalent of one "tier" of loot quality." it better by otherwise none cba to run 25man rly. Atleast it will be more easy to gear alts lol. Thought TBC was epic give a way expansion seems Wotlk will be even worse 
A quick description of some of the spells:
• Death Coil -- Depletes all Runic Power, dealing 600 damage to a non-Undead target, or healing 900 damage on a friendly target.
• Death Grip -- This is the Death Knight's "taunt" ability. It also pulls the target to the Death Knight, forcing them to attack the Death Knight for a short amount of time. Yes, I said pulls the target; Blizzard is going to allow players to move mobs in the expansion both with Death Grip, and other knockback/pull abilities. This works on players too, so PvP balance ahoy!
• Chains of Ice -- Roots the target in place. When the spell fades, it places a snare on the target that reduces in potency as the duration runs out.
• Raise Dead -- Raises a nearby corpse to fight for the Death Knight for 2 minutes. If used on a player corpse, the player has the option to play as the ghoul for the duration -- gaining access to the ghoul's abilities.
- The ghoul has the ability to do the following:
-- Leap to the target
-- Rend for decent damage-over-time
-- Stun target, and of course more
• Death Pact -- Sacrifices the raised ghouls to heal the Death Knight.
• Death and Decay -- Targeted, AoE Damage-over-time which pulses similar to the Paladin spell Consecration. Anyone affected by Death and Decay has a chance to be feared.
• Frost Presence -- Increases Armor by 45% and allows the Death Knight to generate 25% more threat. Only one presence can be active at any time.
• Unholy Presence -- Increases Attack Speed and Movement speed by 15%. Only one presence can be active at any time. This was described by Tom Chilton as the "PvP" presence.
• Anti-magic Shield -- Reduces the damage of the next magical spell cast on the Death Knight by 75%. It also converts the damage reduced into Runic Power.
• Strangulate -- Depletes all Runic Power, dealing minor damage and silencing the target for up to 5 seconds.
• Summon Deathcharger -- Allows the Death Knight to summon a Deathcharger mount. This mount is acquired through quests, similar to the Paladin and Warlock land mounts.
• Death Coil -- Depletes all Runic Power, dealing 600 damage to a non-Undead target, or healing 900 damage on a friendly target.
• Death Grip -- This is the Death Knight's "taunt" ability. It also pulls the target to the Death Knight, forcing them to attack the Death Knight for a short amount of time. Yes, I said pulls the target; Blizzard is going to allow players to move mobs in the expansion both with Death Grip, and other knockback/pull abilities. This works on players too, so PvP balance ahoy!
• Chains of Ice -- Roots the target in place. When the spell fades, it places a snare on the target that reduces in potency as the duration runs out.
• Raise Dead -- Raises a nearby corpse to fight for the Death Knight for 2 minutes. If used on a player corpse, the player has the option to play as the ghoul for the duration -- gaining access to the ghoul's abilities.
- The ghoul has the ability to do the following:
-- Leap to the target
-- Rend for decent damage-over-time
-- Stun target, and of course more
• Death Pact -- Sacrifices the raised ghouls to heal the Death Knight.
• Death and Decay -- Targeted, AoE Damage-over-time which pulses similar to the Paladin spell Consecration. Anyone affected by Death and Decay has a chance to be feared.
• Frost Presence -- Increases Armor by 45% and allows the Death Knight to generate 25% more threat. Only one presence can be active at any time.
• Unholy Presence -- Increases Attack Speed and Movement speed by 15%. Only one presence can be active at any time. This was described by Tom Chilton as the "PvP" presence.
• Anti-magic Shield -- Reduces the damage of the next magical spell cast on the Death Knight by 75%. It also converts the damage reduced into Runic Power.
• Strangulate -- Depletes all Runic Power, dealing minor damage and silencing the target for up to 5 seconds.
• Summon Deathcharger -- Allows the Death Knight to summon a Deathcharger mount. This mount is acquired through quests, similar to the Paladin and Warlock land mounts.
Looking at Death Grip, the screenshot of an enhancement shaman spell Lightning Lash may not be fake after all. According to the screeny it deals about 400-500 nature damage, incapacitates for 1 sec and pulls the target to the shaman.
Anshrr
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Death Knight sounds like awesome fun now tho. Makes me curious as to what they have planned for other classes to weigh up for it.
The level req on your toon is waay way lower than I anticipated. I really thought you'd have to have a lvl80 before you could roll one. Now everyone will roll DK on launch day ^^
But lots of nice spells and stuff going into the class, which is cool. Making someone else your pet is kinda fun. I also love how they're making frost and diseases very prominent. Makes the class more unique.
As for 25 vs 10 man.. I doubt the 10 man will drop Tier sets, so basically, if you wanna look like a dork (ZA sets) 10 man is fine, if you wanna looks awesome (T5-6), and be even more uber, 25 man is the place to be. I really doubt the armor u get in 10 man is the same ilvl as in the 25man. Makes me wonder how they're gonna do it tho, difficulty wise.... With no attunements, why not skip the first and/or second 10 man, do the third alot to gear up, then skip the first 25 man.... I reckon the "last" 10 man will be hard, but probably drop gear on level or better than the first 25 man? With i.e. 3 raid dungeons, 3 10 man, it wouldn't make sense for all three 10 mans to be worse than all 3 25 mans, so really.... why do the first 25 man if you get better gear in a higher 10 man? Kinda..
Hope the Tier armors look cool
/edit: Oh and why doesn't anyone ask Blizzard whether or not DKs will get some visual effect so you know they're DKs and not just another warrior >< It's like, really high on my want to know list. Like, a different eye glow, or soemthing
The level req on your toon is waay way lower than I anticipated. I really thought you'd have to have a lvl80 before you could roll one. Now everyone will roll DK on launch day ^^
But lots of nice spells and stuff going into the class, which is cool. Making someone else your pet is kinda fun. I also love how they're making frost and diseases very prominent. Makes the class more unique.
As for 25 vs 10 man.. I doubt the 10 man will drop Tier sets, so basically, if you wanna look like a dork (ZA sets) 10 man is fine, if you wanna looks awesome (T5-6), and be even more uber, 25 man is the place to be. I really doubt the armor u get in 10 man is the same ilvl as in the 25man. Makes me wonder how they're gonna do it tho, difficulty wise.... With no attunements, why not skip the first and/or second 10 man, do the third alot to gear up, then skip the first 25 man.... I reckon the "last" 10 man will be hard, but probably drop gear on level or better than the first 25 man? With i.e. 3 raid dungeons, 3 10 man, it wouldn't make sense for all three 10 mans to be worse than all 3 25 mans, so really.... why do the first 25 man if you get better gear in a higher 10 man? Kinda..
Hope the Tier armors look cool
/edit: Oh and why doesn't anyone ask Blizzard whether or not DKs will get some visual effect so you know they're DKs and not just another warrior >< It's like, really high on my want to know list. Like, a different eye glow, or soemthing
Gifv wotlk tbh! This all looks great fun to me :mrgreen:
I really like 10-player instances in TBC, looks like wotlk will deliver lots of goodies. :kitty:
I really like 10-player instances in TBC, looks like wotlk will deliver lots of goodies. :kitty:
The 25-10 mirror instances sounds good and all, but somehow a 10-man Arthas encounter doesn't really sound appealing to me. I wanted it to be all epic and awesome but now it sounds proper shit with only 10 people =[
Wilandra said:
ye these 3 screens may not be fake then, although the lightning one still says it is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25857411@N03/2429980236/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25857411@N03/2429167543/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25857411@N03/2432311520/
Hom said:
Ah ye, remembered the effects of Lightning Lash a bit wrong. Oh well, would be such a cool ability anyways
Bigglesworth said:
"The thing that perked my ears up the most during the demonstration this morning, was that the Arthas encounter would not be patched into the game until the end of the Wrath of the Lich King cycle"
Aint even gonna fight him in the expansion until much later patches :S