Joyae said:As it should be, mages wont have to ponder whether to roll on the rare TOEP : :wink:
Asmodean said:Well. ToEP is nice but it's only +175 for 15s with a 2m CD.
Liandra said:Asmodean said:Well. ToEP is nice but it's only +175 for 15s with a 2m CD.
90 seconds actually. Exactly half the cooldown of Arcane Power, which is pretty nice.
I hate the ZHC nerf, but I guess I should examine why they did it....
www.allakhazam.com lists the ToEP as a 3-5% drop (with a sample size of 30,000 kills, on average).
So, lets look at this statistically:
Some notation:
P(T) : the chance of you getting a ToEP this week
P(Dn) : the chance of n ToPEs dropping this week
P(T|Dn) : the chance of you getting a ToEP, if n ToPEs drop this week
The ToEP is a 4% drop off 4 mobs, thus it can drop 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4 times in one run.
P(D4) = (0C4)(0.04^4) = 0.0001125
P(D3) = (1C4)(0.96)(0.04^3) = 0.00024576
P(D2) = (2C4)(0.96^2)(0.04^2) = 0.00884736
P(D1) = (3C4)(0.96^3)(0.04) = 0.14155776
P(D0) = (4C4)(0.96^4) = 0.84934656
Now assuming a standard class balance (5 of each class), half the raid are casters that would make use of it. Thus, the chance of you getting one ToEP (not considering a DKP system) is dependant on how many drop:
P(T|D4) = (4)(0.05) = 0.20
P(T|D3) = (3)(0.05) = 0.15
P(T|D2) = (2)(0.05) = 0.10
P(T|D1) = 0.05
P(T|D0) = 0
So your chance of getting a ToEP this week is:
P(T)
= P(T|D0)*P(D0) + P(T|D1)*P(D1) + P(T|D2)*P(D2) + P(T|D3)*P(D3) + P(T|D4)*P(D4)
= (0) + (0.05)(0.14155776) + (0.10)(0.00884736) + (0.15)(0.00024576) + (0.20)(0.0001125)
= 0.008353764 or 0.84%
Where as, you get a 5% chance every 3 days for a ZHC, giving you an aproximate chance each week of 10%.
So yes, I would agree then, the ToEP is harder to get.
Joyae said:Now assuming a standard class balance (5 of each class), half the raid are casters that would make use of it.
Liandra said:Joyae said:Now assuming a standard class balance (5 of each class), half the raid are casters that would make use of it.
Interesting calculation but this statement is just bullshit. One quarter would be much more realistic (mages, locks, and the odd shadowpriest or balance drood).
This of course doubles the chance of getting a toep, making it a whopping 1.7%
Liandra said:Joyae said:Now assuming a standard class balance (5 of each class), half the raid are casters that would make use of it.
Interesting calculation but this statement is just bullshit. One quarter would be much more realistic (mages, locks, and the odd shadowpriest or balance drood).
This of course doubles the chance of getting a toep, making it a whopping 1.7%
Joyae said:Most raids let all casters roll, and if you'd let pallies roll (rofl), then you'd get to 25/40 on average even
Joyae said:Liandra said:Joyae said:Now assuming a standard class balance (5 of each class), half the raid are casters that would make use of it.
Interesting calculation but this statement is just bullshit. One quarter would be much more realistic (mages, locks, and the odd shadowpriest or balance drood).
This of course doubles the chance of getting a toep, making it a whopping 1.7%
Most raids let all casters roll, and if you'd let pallies roll (rofl), then you'd get to 25/40 on average even
noobies said:It will take JoC crits too another level :twisted:
Johras said:noobies said:It will take JoC crits too another level :twisted:
ZOMG you crit Rabbit for 127! :rofl:
Johras said:noobies said:It will take JoC crits too another level :twisted:
ZOMG you crit Rabbit for 127! :rofl:
Liandra said:Johras said:noobies said:It will take JoC crits too another level :twisted:
ZOMG you crit Rabbit for 127! :rofl:
Much better than Your Pyroblast is resisted by Rabbit. :cry:
Who could resist you? Unpossible!Liandra said:Much better than Your Pyroblast is resisted by Rabbit. :cry: